Tiara Lestari's Personal Journal

My words, my feeling, my memories, my experiences. Mostly, this is me.

Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Women, Literature, and Fiery Red Thongs

By: Raya Fahreza

I''m sure that there's been numerous surveys and market research towards books which in the end suggests that women reads more than men. Girls read more than guys, right, no surprises there since us guys have always been generalized as the less sophisticated and less mature of the species. While the latter accusation is open for debate, I think it's true that at least women takes reading and literature more seriously than us Neanderthals. Here we're not just talking about Cosmo and its fabulous tips on low carbo diet, tae-bo and how to keep 'mr.happy' in a playful mood. And no, not just the chick-lit series with hip titles like Shopaholic or Fashionista. I'm talking literature, Kahlil Gibran and the likes, stuff like Kafka, you know, the kind of shit guys like me won't even begin to comprehend.

That's right. Women reads stuff. My 28 years old kid sister has never been seen without a book, seems like she can't live without one, it's like an addiction, a necessity. She reads so many books about so many serious and 'deep' subjects, from light literature, to poems, to chick-lit, to new age stuffs. Not only her, almost all my girl friends reads something. I suppose you guys notice this, right? There's no need for a survey data to tell us, heck, just take a look at the profiles at internet communities. Girls will list down the titles of the books they read while I can only say that I prefer magazines.

What tickles me is not the fact that I prefer practical and current information over other non-factual interesting reads, but it's the thing about poetry and stuff. I can understand artistic _expression, beautiful words just like a good lyric of a good song but some of this artsy stuff is getting to be more of a bunch of gibberish to me. It's like the writer's high on something and writes them down into supposedly beautiful, er, poem, or, prose, literature, whatever. And women, or at least women I know really digs this stuff! They really took them into heart. They seemed to get all emotional with them. Inspired, touched, enlightened, hell, a girl friend once told me that there's this one poem that can actually give her an orgasm! Wonder if she was really just reading at the time...

Obviously, this literature thingy begins to be as important for me. I want to be able to understand women. I want to be able to inspire women with my writings, to touch them emotionally by my words. I want to help women gain sexual satisfaction simply with a bunch of fancy words on a piece of paper! Such a mysterious super power! But hold up, apparently there are other stuff they really really like.

They are called self-help books. Before you guys start to scream and shout in joy of approval, these so called self-help books are not what you think. Yes, sports fans, they don't use these reading materials the way you guys use Playboy or Penthouse magazines and oh, please spare me the one about 'buying them for their interesting articles' especially if the damp stack of literature found in your toilets are magazines by the name of Hustler. Self-help books are supposedly light educational reading material aimed to help the reader achieve a target by providing useful tips, insights, and inspiring short stories that can motivate the reader.

Titles like, if I remember it correctly, "7 Habits of Highly Effective People", or "Who Moved My Cheese" spawned many spin-offs and variants. There's one huge franchise in the business category, started by this one titled "Rich Dad, Poor Dad". Now that one I think is actually good and it made sense but that's not the interesting thing about these self help books' content. What I really like to point out here is that most of the supposedly useful tips, tricks and insights are simple and known you'd-know-about-them-all-otherwise-you're-stupid common sense! These books are not telling us too many new things! It's downright silly if you need them. In fact, needing them would mean that you need a book to remind you –or even worse- let you know what is common sense!

Now back to women as the main topic, I also have met many women who really goes for this kind of stuff! They'd go into bookstores and really shop for these shit! I thought women had more common sense than us guys by default, why would you need so much of those? I believe that when we have reached a certain age and maturity, and at least a standard level of intellectuality, we already know pretty much all the right thing to do. We do not need to comprehend them further because they are simple logic, what we usually have trouble on is actually practicing them. But hey, for guys, if you think you're smart enough to get out of your cave and actually approach a female without your wooden hunting club, or namely to actually have intelligent conversation with the opposite of sex, then this is your chance. Ah hah! We have found a weakness in the oh-so-divine maturity and intellectuality of women!

Unfortunately, failed attempts by many of the male species to impress the female by means of verbal cerebral-based conversations just further proved the male are intellectually inferior. A logical self help tip here, guys, listen up morons, alcohol and nicotine does not make you smart! Make sure you know what you're doing before you try to talk and sound smart, read something beforehand, not so much, just be prepared.

Remember the old standards in high school. The cool guys and the jocks don't read as much as the geeks and the nerds? Those lettermen and cute boys usually are not as literate as the others but as for girls nowadays? Whoa! The same rule does not apply! Whether she's a sweater-and-cardigan-wearing-thick-eye glassed-desk jockey or a really really hot babe who struts around with low cuts, hipsters and fiery red thongs, she'll quickly name a couple of books upon questioning!

I don't really know if it's the universal standard or I just happen to be surrounded by these well-read women, but I think we men may have to read something more than automobile magazines, sports pages, and the comics. Then we really have to get our own stuff going on like those FHM or Ralph magazines, except in the form of books! Yes I can see it right now! The men's answer to Chick-lit! Thug-lit!

Yes! Thug-lit! and the tagline would say "Not Getting Laid And Happy!". We'll have titles like 'Shoplifting' or 'Autonista', and maybe for me, 'Weaponista'. We'll be just as sophisticated, but by our own rights! As for poetry and all that stuff, well, I think I speak for every men ot there that while we still prefer to try and give women sexual satisfaction the old fashioned way, we'd love to see you come to a poem every now and then...

And oh, as you can see I don't talk about thongs in this one, but it sounded nice for a title...


  • At November 14, 2005 11:44 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Great post Raya...

    I visited your blog about a week ago and wanted to leave a comment, but I didn't want to have to sign up with yet another blogging host.

    There's an interesting article about boys, girls and books on the physiological level in the Washington Post. It appears that boys' brains simply aren't wired the same for reading aptitude. No news to most of us here.

    I read all the time... Constantly. When I'm not reading what others have written, I'm reading what I just wrote myself. Of course very little of any of it is the esoteric Kafka-esque literature you describe, but it's still reading.

    From my perspective, and I'll presume to speak for most men with a dabble of brains in their noggin, we prefer to involve ourselves in reading about matters that are clearly defined in black and white, even if the subject matter is a mess of conceptual grey. I would much rather enjoy reading an encapsulated "get to the point" Cliff Note's version of War and Peace then the entire cement-block of a book. Maybe that's also why the majority of Reader's Digest subscribers are male?

    Is it necessary to read "fine" literature, books of fiction and poetry to pull off the kind of sensually fluttering text you're talking about? I don't think so at all... While it will certainly help you in the style and vocabulary department, the art of crafting soulful prose comes from just that, having soulful thoughts to begin with. Add to that the technical knowledge necessary to translate your emotions into words to form universally comprehensible strings text and you're well on your way to pulling emotional reactions out of others. Doesn't seem so hard, does it?

    I'll have to heartily poo-poo your comments on Playboy... Centerfold peek first, then a visit to the table of contents, another look at the centerfold, read Asa Baber's 'Men' column, have a look at the techno gadget section, a peek at the girls in the secondary and tertiary photo spreads, read the interview, check out the last page detailing what's in next month's issue, read the op ed comments, and save the special reports, fictional stories and fashion segements for the crapper. That was my recipe for enjoying Playboy for almost a decade as a subscriber. I don't read it any more, but when I did, it was a magazine of much greater substance then just some ordinary whack mag and worlds beyond the frat-boy antics of popular mags today like FHM, Stuff and Maxim.

  • At November 15, 2005 1:22 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    Thankyou Tiara!
    Wow, this is great, and uh...
    now comes that loud silence...

    Heeey! There's Trent.
    At least it got ONE comment! Thanks, man. When Tiara said my post was to be posted, I was worried cause I just read them again (this is actually part 1) and the whole thing sounds embarassingly stupid but then again it's my talent, really, to embarass myself in front of people.

    I agree with your point, dude. I read stuff too, at least, used to. In fact, I was a book worm until I turn into, uh, magazineworm if there's such a thing. Of course like you said you don't need to read all those fine stuff to pull off some sorry sensual approach, haha... This is just one big exaggeration after bumping into one hot babe at a bookstore at Plaza Senayan, overheard her babble about some 'fine' reads and when she passed by, saw her wearing a bright red fiery thong -she's got this really low cut hipster. And I went "daaamn..." maybe I should begin reading 'fine' literature. Nothing like a pure motivation.

    Same thing on Playboy. While over the years I only managed to have a stack of them -courtesy of my dear smuggling friends-, I did read most of the articles. And yea, at first I was a bit surprised that they do have 'substance'. Now come to think of it, I haven't seen the one featuring Tiara.

    So... Thanks, man!
    I used to have one blogger account but moved to multiply since it's easier to make a semi-website and it's got an easier access to its community. The only hitch is that only multiply members can comment and interact. I visited yours too last week, and am totally touched by your signature "me love you long time". Hahaha... One of my favorite lines ever.

    Glad somebody actually read my silly exaggeration... thanks to Tiara!

    Obviously this breaks the record as the lowest-read posting here. Should've submitted something more deep such as religion, beliefs, family values or waffle fries... Haha...

  • At November 15, 2005 3:09 AM, Anonymous Divi Augusti said…

    Hmm interesting.

    Most people I know either do read craploads of books or not at all - men AND women. I personally prefer Patrick O'Brian's and stuff by/related to Marquis de Sade lately.

    One thing I never bother to read at all: newspapers. Something about it that is just... uhm... craptastic to me.

  • At November 15, 2005 3:55 AM, Anonymous loveholes said…


  • At November 15, 2005 4:32 AM, Blogger ATB_NL_indo said…

    No thongs? You got my hopes up for nothing :P

    Nice post Raya!

  • At November 15, 2005 5:00 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    keren... two thumbup :D

    itu kali kenapa di kampus gw yg lulus nya cepet2 cewek... hahaha

  • At November 15, 2005 7:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I'm googling around and found some folks out there saying this is a pretty popular blog ( Yeah, i was shocked with the amount of comments posted )

    But truly Tiara, this is such a non sense. You did not even tell much thing about your life like any other personal blog, you did post some of your thought but look at it, its an arguable thing but still just a nonsense crap.

    In the last topic, you have a concern about a "slut" perception, but come take a look at the picture you posted , and i just can say its a bit contradictive, lol, oh i know cause the only thing that was attractive from your blog is the picture...

    So for people other than the one that trying to grasp ur attention, you just screw up their expectation about you.

    There are many stupid comments posted before , and your reply towards it telling that they was at fault and they just an idiot horny guy passing by, but that was the image they had about you...

    Sorry for being anonymous, otherwise some of your fans here will junk around my blog.

  • At November 15, 2005 5:28 PM, Anonymous Sontoloyo said…

    Wadoh perempuan sekarang baca banyak buku yah ? ck...ck....ck...
    Kalau ngadu buku improvement atau pengetahuan umum oke deh..tapi kalau puisi ? ampuuunnn...gue kaga bakat ngasih perempuan puisi...yang ada malah patah hati.
    Sangat bagus punya lingkungan yang baca buku...you are a lucky girl(i miss that enviroment).

  • At November 16, 2005 1:06 AM, Anonymous kaskuser said…

    Why don't u become a fashion model rather than a nude (semi-nude)model ?

  • At November 16, 2005 5:15 AM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Oh, I can't resist...

    Yeah, Raya... Why is that? Why go nude, man? Loved the whole cop spread you put up on your blog by the way. Smashing, dahling... That fabric looks just delish! ;)

    /facetiousness: off

    Methinks Tiara needs a special section where folks can ask her questions and she can answer them.

    Not that kaskuser's question wasn't an excellent one, but does it really belong in a thread that's supposed to be about Raya's post?

    I imagine by now you've received a million similar questions, Tiara. Perhaps grouping them all into a separate frequently asked questions blog and replying to the most common ones would be a good idea.

    Since we're off topic anyway I might as well toss a comment out to Anonymous.

    I'm not really grooving on what your point is exactly. It's a personal blog, dude and/or dudette.

    Is there a rule book somewhere out there that spells out a list of statutory requirements for what a blog MUST contain?

    Also, where exactly are you seeing the contradiction between what she does for a living and her indignant response regarding the slut/stud double standard? I fail to see the connection myself, but I can certainly understand how some others that have posted here could be short-sighted enough to make that leap.

    Your comments remind me of people who tend to think, "She was just asking for it", when a scantily clad girl drinks too much, dances a little too provocatively then proceeds to get raped later that night by her suitor after the bar shuts down.

    All things being equal, allowing risque photos of yourself to be distributed, even if it's to exploit sexuality as a means towards personal profit and promotion, doesn't mean you must forfeit your right to attack someone who has implied that you're a cheap, dime-store tramp.

    Unfortunately, there's no real ojective definition of what's "slutty" out there, but of those I've read, I don't see how simply posing nude alone makes her worthy of such a title.

    At the absolute worst, she could be called out as an opportunist depending on whether or not she's going against her personal principals. Handing credence over to the ideal of her being a walkin', talkin', posin' and bloggin' contradiction because of what keeps her bills paid is stretching things too far in my opinion.

    In any event, it's still a good question posed by kuskuser, and probably worthy of a blog entry all by itself in response. I too am curious to know if there are any reasons beyond the obvious as to why she feels it's necessary to bare her 'naughty bits' to the world.

    So back to books, so you're saying they're all the rage these days with the chix, huh? Interesting. ;)

  • At November 16, 2005 7:56 PM, Blogger Gregg said…

    Raya- Seems like you are rehashing old arguments that just aren't true. There is no evidence that women are more prodigious or prolific readers than men. While your friend Binky references articles on trace differences in physiology that may point to differences in aptitude, there is no evidence that women perform intellectually much differently than men. The president of Harvard University believes men make better scientists, but that belief is personal opinion and is dividing the faculty of that institution.

    The differences you call out seem to be more related to the way we process emotions. This is the same stuff argued in the book "Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars". Women look for emotional validation and are quick to ask for help. Men tend to forge ahead and ask for help as a last resort. Hence all the jokes about men getting lost while driving and refusing to ask for directions.

    You want to understand women better, then read more literature. They aren't all that complicated and in truth, not all that different from us.

    From my personal experience, it seems that women want to be heard. They want us to listen to their wants and needs. When they want our help, they seem to be ready to ask. I find their approach to love and romance refreshing. It's based on communication; on the exchange of feelings and ideas. Not a bad way for human beings to behave, don't you think?

  • At November 16, 2005 10:51 PM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    anonymous, you're right! We male visit this blog to see her naked picture, not bunch of craps.

    Tiara, please posted more your naked picture, c'mon slut, so us more your tits, butt, and dark pussy.

    More pictures LESS talks please.

    PS. Your deletion to this post will just make us believe you're not as great as you claimed to be. Slut.

  • At November 17, 2005 12:02 AM, Anonymous suckybloggoingtohell said…

    this blog sucks. How did tiara make so many enemies? Must be her great personality

  • At November 17, 2005 4:23 AM, Blogger Shanghaineil said…

    I don't know about some of the comments here, which frankly show the sadder side of men, but personally I read as much as I can (and not as much as I'd like) and my experience is that there are many men who read prodigiously, and many women too, and many women who read only fashion magazines, and men who read only 'mens' magazines or sports. So what? Just proves that different people like different things and there are shallow and deep men & women. Sorry but I completely disagree with the premise of the post, but thanks for writing so beautifully, and I look forward to more. Terima kasih. Neil

  • At November 17, 2005 4:23 AM, Blogger Shanghaineil said…

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  • At November 17, 2005 7:59 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    To Gregg and Shanghaineil:
    I agree with you guys. About my post's topic, as I said before, this is just one big emotional exageration triggered by the sight of a kinky red thong worn by a well-read babe. It's such an emotional moment...at the time, this was on my mind until I go back to my cave and turn on the PC...hahaha.

    Bottom line, it's not such a serious post, just silly ramblings of pathetic ol' me but at least it makes you think. That time I realized I no longer read books. I don't enjoy them as much as I used to.

    thankyou so much for reading!
    I am glad Tiara didn't post the 2nd part of this, it's embarassing :p

    the cop look worked better on me than my nude pics... hahahaha!

  • At November 17, 2005 9:09 AM, Blogger Gregg said…

    Raya- it's hard to write something witty when the readers are only here for the nudie pics ;-)

    Tiara- thanks for trying something different. In the long run, I think humor and wit are a lot more attractive and outstanding then a pretty face and hot body. Fortunate, you seem to have it all :-) Best of luck in your career.

  • At November 17, 2005 12:56 PM, Anonymous geek_hater said…

    Trent wolodko , binky whoever you are, you must be a hell of a nerd, I am sorry to say, but it appears you 've spent so much time and energy typing your comments as they are always so... loong and so.. boriing and yet.. pointless. I understand that you are a journalist and want to appear sophisticated, but you've ruined the fun part of this blog...my suggestion is that you should write your comments on the irag war bloggers...I am sure your insights and thoughts will contribute more to their stress... and to Tiara..shouldn't these boring comments be deleted too? the negative comments are actualy constructive to you , as I noticed that you've posted non slutty picture of you on this one than the previous postings..(chuckle)

  • At November 17, 2005 5:53 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Dear geek_hater,

    You're a presumptuous, ignorant and hateful little twit.

    How's that? Succinct enough for ya?

    Luv & thots,


  • At November 17, 2005 7:20 PM, Anonymous binkyboynotsosmartnow said…

    ok binky boy, tell me the differential diagnosis for a person presenting with anemia, neutropenia,and thrombocytopenia. that's right pinky binky boy, you ain't so smart are you. oh yes, i agree with greek, brevity is the soul of wit. but since you don't have wit, please feel free to ramble on.

  • At November 17, 2005 8:18 PM, Anonymous what-a-jerk said…

    hey trent, you sure have a lot of free time huh ?

    Or you just a desperate old man trying to get close with Tiara ? Hahahaha, get a life man, there's so many hot chicks out thr

  • At November 17, 2005 11:09 PM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    To RAYA, BINKY, and others.

    Obviously you guys are on the wrong forum! You should have used your time consuming writings skill blablabla in a more appropriate site. It's a waste of energy to write something like you did in a-nude-exposing-site.

    This site is only for people like me ;)

  • At November 18, 2005 2:24 AM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…


    Hmmm, only those conditions? Could be many things, are you taking chemotherapy treatments? Are you on any medications? Liver hematology look ok? Better stop eating civet cats or get yourself tested for the HIV, Nancy.


    I'm 33, single, 191cm, Canadian, white, and I'm the komisaris of a joint venture import/export trading company. I can assure you, even without my rugged handsomeness, devilish charm and rich baritone singing voice, attracting Indonesian women is a fairly effortless endeavor. I'm not the typical bule philanderer, so I don't participate in those sorts of endeavors, but it's a pretty naive notion indeed to assume I'm simply here to see if I can 'score' with the host because I can't find any 'action' on the local market.


    I thought it might be fun to join an English language blog that I knew would be rapidly populated primarily by English speaking Indonesians. Sort of a way to quench the desire to interact with the locals at a more cerebral level since I don't speak the language yet.

    Point me towards another English language blog with a rich population of Indonesian visitors and I promise I'll spend more time there, ok?

    Tiara could have green skin, three tits, one eye, a tail and a horn growing out of her forehead for all I care. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. 'Pretty girls' are a dime a dozen. It's her candor about her experiences and her profession that are provocative enough for me to afford a regular visit.

    My primary motivation in posting here however, has a lot more to do with being involved in a forum where I can communicate with as many natives as possible, even if it means defending myself against little turds like you and your pestulant pack of anonymous buddies.

    Savour that, Troll(s)... It's the last morsel you'll get out of me.

  • At November 18, 2005 2:39 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    To Playboy:
    You may be right -if I wrote everything only just for this-here Tiara's blog. They're also posted on my own blog. As for this forum, this is just plain fun.

    I'm curious if this is really Tiara behind all this, cause, like the tagline said "mostly, this is me". Not 'all', just 'mostly'. If this is really Tiara then I'd love to interview her for my blog. Not just by web or chat, no no. In person. If that happens then we can confirm that this really is a cool celebrity blog.

  • At November 18, 2005 2:53 AM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    I thought of that too, Raya.

    For what it's worth, observations would conclude she has "team members" enabled, which gives accounts other than her own access to perform administrative or moderator duties on this blog.

    So, she's probably not alone, but it's not of any real consequence... Unless of course it's all horseshit. :)

  • At November 18, 2005 4:03 AM, Anonymous binky_is_a_F**n_geek said…

    Trent / binky , you are a 33 yr old , single ,canadian...well that says it all...you are approaching 40..you are getting any pus*y since you are single...and you are from a country with cold wheather all year long...you think you can easily get Indo women attracted to you..it's because you cannot get canadian women due to your extreme nerdness.. no wonder you've got such a boring life..

  • At November 18, 2005 4:18 AM, Anonymous sucking_black_nipples said…

    hi raya , binky you two are perfect for each other in terms of being geeks..you spent so much time typing all this shit and wondering whether is the real Tiara or not..I thought you two were sophisticated geeks , you cannot even figure out who's behind this blog..it's just Tiara who is trying hard to be somebody else..meaning an average looking dark javanese muslim girl..trying hard to change her slutty image as she had appeared nude to gain popularity..and wants to be perceived as the next top fashion model...cmon, Tiara..reality bites..if you are good enough ..you don't need to show your black nipples and pussy

  • At November 18, 2005 4:21 AM, Anonymous binky_is_a_F**n_geek said…

    Trent / binky , you are a 33 yr old , single ,canadian...well that says it all...you are approaching 40..you are NOT getting any pus*y since you are single...and you are from a country with cold wheather all year long...you think you can easily get Indo women attracted to you..it's because you cannot get canadian women due to your extreme nerdness.. no wonder you've got such a boring life..

  • At November 18, 2005 6:40 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    BINKY/TRENT, go to this site http://expatforum.digitaldevelopment.com/ You can share your thots better than being a stranger in this slutty-lover-site ;)

    Also to you RAYA, your skill worth better there. Don't go to that "Personal" page though, there too many chicks like Tiara who have no brain but pretend to have. That page only works for BINKY. He can ask them to send their pictures. I bet he'll then realize how many of Tiara alike there.

    Try other page like "Expat Chat" or "Current Events" you can share your precious thots there with less-nudist-minded-people ;)

  • At November 18, 2005 6:54 AM, Anonymous Nylana said…

    Guys...lighten up, please! Seriously, I think some of you (you know who you are) need to chill out...soon! Some of the comments written here are ridiculous and there's way too much negative comments. Why all the tension guys or should I just shut up and leave it be?!? *cringe*

    Anyone care about Keano's departure news from United? I do...

  • At November 18, 2005 7:30 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    uh, guys..
    I am a certified, self admitted geek. so calling me one would be redundant :p

    gregg, are there any nudie pics here? i must've missed them.

    playboy, i went straight to the 'personals', hahahaha...

  • At November 18, 2005 7:58 AM, Blogger Gregg said…

    raya- you know, I didn't check. I just assumed so from the commentor's demand for more. I admire Tiara for encouraging some creative and intelligent discourse on her site.

  • At November 18, 2005 8:50 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    So how bout you, Binky? Care to join that forum? You'll find that interaction with locals, or some expat turning into locals ;)

    Try it and you'll thank me for that later. Being nice here to you at least ;)

    Tiara, tiara, more new nude photos please!

  • At November 18, 2005 10:55 AM, Blogger priaberbajuhitam said…

    sampun.. sampun mengke perang lho... piye to kowe2 iki? lha wong golek penguripan yo koq d kisruhi se... wis...wis ra nggeno pisan...

  • At November 18, 2005 2:35 PM, Anonymous binkypinkydumbass said…

    binky pinky boy, you are so wrong on the differential diagnosis. Let me guess, you went on the internet, typed in those key medical terms, and they gave you a bunch of bullshit. first of all, don't go straight to "liver hematology" b/c it's no the most important organ in hematopoesis. secondly, chemo therapy, or any drug whatsoever may cause these symptoms, but they aren't even close on the high end of the differential diagnosis. to make a long story short, you are a dumb ass who likes to think he's smart. Somethings you just can't answer merely by going on the internet buddy. My advice, stop spending your lard ass time on the internet and go out in the real word loser

  • At November 18, 2005 8:37 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

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  • At November 18, 2005 9:21 PM, Blogger TiaraLestari said…

    Hi everyone,

    Raya, once again, I love your posting. It is both funny and insightful. Thanks!

    Mr.binkyboynotsosmartnow: the fact you stompt Trent on a medical question to prove he is not inteligent is beyond scope of any logic.

    If Trent, who is a writer and undestand philosphy, were to ask you a question regarding the differential hypotheses of Descartes's "evil genius argument" and Plato's "Phaeudrus" character, wouldn't you google those terms? Does that make Trent smarter than you?

    I am glad to see there is way more than a shred of intelligence in you. I wish you put those capacity to good use on this or any other forum.

    Playboy, sorry to dissapoint you buddy. My nude pictures are all over the place on the net. You do not need this blog to look for them.

    Kaskuser, simple answer: I am not tall enough to be a fashion model. There are various segments of modeling, each with its own parameters. Fashion requires you to be at least 170cm. I am a bit shorter than that :)

    Greg and Shanghai Neil, welcome to my blog gents.


  • At November 18, 2005 9:31 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Oh, I see...

    I'm dumb because I took 20 minutes of my time to take your three conditions, cross reference all the known disorders where all three might appear, checked any possible major drug interactions that may be responsible, then asked you about specific test results and further pointed questions designed to narrow down the diagnosis when I've got no other symptoms, and no patient history in front of me. Yeah, ok, sure.

    Show me a doctor that wouldn't follow an identical methodology in limiting his diagnosis with only the conditions you cited present and I'll show you one hell of an irresponsible medical professional.

    And as for the hematology, your list of symptoms implies that you've already run the basics which, described conditions not withstanding, were inconclusive.

    Running additional chemistry on the liver is just one example provided of a simple and non-intrusive way to help eliminate a host of other potential problems where your conditions are symptomatic. Especially when there's no patient present to correlate any other symptoms. Would you rather just jump right in and recommend scraping bone marrow and lymphatic tissue samples?

    Please, don't bother responding with a list you memorized for a mid-term of the exact procedures and examinations you'd perform to come to your DD, because that's NOT the point I'm trying to make here.

    I'm not a doctor, nor am I pretending to be, but I fail to see how demonstrating the ability to analyze a medical condition in the same manner and methodology as an MD, makes me somehow intellectually inferior to you.

    If anything, it shows that if I wanted to be a doctor, I could hit the books, just like you apparently have, and become one... And I’m sure I’d be a hell of a lot better at it then you because quite frankly, you’re a bit of an elitist asshole and I’m not.

    I could sit here all day long and list off things I can do in my sleep that I doubt you'd be able to fumble through without first consulting some sort of guide, reference or text book, but what exactly is the point of that?

    Knowing how to do something, or in your specific case, having the apparent learned experience to perform pattern recognition to diagnose a patient without the necessity for consultation fails to prove how ‘smart’ or 'superior' you are to me, or anyone else.

    I'll also add that I most certainly would never look down upon someone that didn’t already have the acquired knowledge, whereas you apparently would as you're a total cockhead.

  • At November 18, 2005 9:34 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Yeah, what Tiara said.

  • At November 18, 2005 11:01 PM, Anonymous binkymuchtoolongwinde said…

    the problem with you binky pinky boy is you are so damned long winded. tiara gets to the point, hence she in most peoples' opinion, way smarter than you. My POINT: binky pinky boy: keep it simple and succinct. Just like my model medical question, DD: leukemia, lymphoma. Done, end of story. Now, who was the 2nd president under the continental congress. AGAIN keep it simple, like one sentence, not some bullshit 5 paragraph marathon. Binky, you're a idiot. Write less like Faulkner and more like Hemingway, you dig?

  • At November 18, 2005 11:21 PM, Anonymous jesus_christ said…

    binky trent is a loser. everyone tells him to write more concise, but the fool keeps rambling on. Freakin idiot. that's why you'll never succeed trent, no one wants to listen or read you long ass comments.

  • At November 18, 2005 11:50 PM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    TIARA Said:
    "If Trent, who is a writer and undestand philosphy, were to ask you a question regarding the differential hypotheses of Descartes's "evil genius argument" and Plato's "Phaeudrus" character, wouldn't you google those terms? Does that make Trent smarter than you?"

    That's confirmed 100%, these all nonsense NOT yours!

    I had my blasts many times at your pictures on the net, but I need more fresh and new photos. If you can have your pussy exposed more, I would be very amused. C'mon Tiara, spread your legs wide so I can see you more than about your small dark tits ;)

  • At November 19, 2005 4:48 AM, Blogger kiyoshi said…

    Yeah... long time not here, great you have a guest blogger on your blog, but even more fascinating me, YOU GOT A FIGHT CLUB ON YOUR BLOG, wow... dat was cool...

    Just kidding...

  • At November 19, 2005 6:11 AM, Anonymous LESBIAN said…

    Hi Tiara, gw suka photo elo. Jujur aja, gw lesbian. Boleh gak ya, gw onani sambil mikirin elo? Gw baru aja beli dildo nih balik dari NYC.

  • At November 19, 2005 6:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Tiara, I thought u'r famous as you claimed, but when I searched on google using the images search, I only found very few picture.

  • At November 19, 2005 6:34 AM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…



    Part I

    More tests are needed
    Premature Diagnosis
    Could be just the flu.

    Part II

    A tricky question...
    Which continental congress?
    There was more than one.

    Part III

    Faulkner is a God,
    Hemmingway's style is too lax.
    Don't like it? Don't read.

    I have to at least make things interesting for myself if I'm going to keep replying to you imbeciles.

  • At November 19, 2005 6:50 AM, Anonymous curious said…

    Just curious, why your the size of your boops aren't consistent in one photo to the others? I believe as most Indonesians size, yours are small.

    Well, that's a magic of Yurman with his photographic spell.

  • At November 19, 2005 8:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    rite curious! In one photos they look big, but in others they're small original size of indonesian girls.

  • At November 19, 2005 8:29 AM, Anonymous black_nipples said…

    curious, her tits are not big., her nipples are.too big actually ..they look like those of african women who dont wear bra

  • At November 20, 2005 12:28 AM, Anonymous trentisgettingsmarter said…

    close binky boy, you answered two correctly. 1st question (wrong): can't be the flu, b/c flu will not elicit thrombocytopenia or neutropenia; if anything it would promote neutrophilia. 2nd question: yes you are right, so I will elaborate: the 2nd continental congress. Lastly, sure your preference is for Faulkner; great choice. Just keep your answer the way you did last response (concise), and I will have more respect for you.

    overall my impression of you has slightly changed towards the positive.

  • At November 20, 2005 12:34 AM, Anonymous trentgettingmorerespect said…

    oh, to elaborate on the Part 1:

    no further tests are needed, b/c I asked you for a differential diagnosis, not a Definitive diagnosis. hence, the etiology for the three symptoms leans towards, like I said before, leukemia or lymphoma. In medicine, further lab work is only done to Confirm a differential, which is 90% correct based on the history elicited from the patient.

    good try nonetheless

  • At November 20, 2005 2:07 AM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Part I

    Don't scare the patients!
    Alcoholics with the flu,
    Can have your symptoms.

    Part II

    The Harvard alum
    Best known for his signature,
    Good ol' John Hancock

    Part III

    What's the point of this?
    It fails to 'prove' anything,
    Glad you like Haiku.

  • At November 20, 2005 2:24 AM, Anonymous curious said…

    agree with you black_nipples, but the fact that her nipples are too big is indicating that they're been sucked too many times actually. wonder me how many men already had a taste of those nipples?

  • At November 20, 2005 4:52 AM, Blogger Asyraf Lee said…

    Girls somehow read more than guys. Harry Potter novels are already the good examples.

    Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown too.

  • At November 20, 2005 7:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    little bit out of thopic sorry, for anonymous: I think u r free to use any word to represent ur word but when u use the word "Jesus Christ" please respect Him little bit eventhough maybe u r not Christian, I think we still have little ethics in this forum, sorry for my sensitivy..anyway nice word battle here, definitly I learn lot of things here

  • At November 20, 2005 2:29 PM, Anonymous Sucking_black_nipples said…

    ATTENTION ..ATTENTION..check out Tiara's candid picture on this blog without make up and hairdo, the one her gallery - personal- titled "Party Girls"..I knew it..it's all photoshop !!, she is actually an average looking girl who for us Indonesian males can find lots of the similar look on local jakarta message parlors / brothels !, hey balck_nipples, curious, I agree with u, the nipples are too big and black like cows' nipples , here is the photo link http://pub33.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?img=94715&usernum=2821462647

  • At November 20, 2005 10:05 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…


    Makeup and lighting can make a significant difference in a person's appearance.

    Film at Eleven.

    Maybe if these 'common' girls you speak of had any brains or the wherewithal to do what Tiara has done, they wouldn't have to give handjobs to creeps like you for pocket money.

  • At November 20, 2005 10:28 PM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Binky, obviously you don't know how life here in Jakarta. You differed Tiara from those hookers?

    First, you didn't know the real Tiara and what she actually did back in Jakarta before making a move to Singapore.

    Second, we see no different from girls making handjob for money than a girl who pose nude for money. At least when a girl did me handjob, I got a real satisfaction, but with Tiara, I spent my money only for wanking.

  • At November 21, 2005 12:11 AM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…


    Thanks for drawing the line between men and boys and/or animals for me. I was afraid I'd have to explain the difference myself.

    I can't speak much about the lower caste, but I've been around the bourgeoisie in Jakarta long enough to know that majority control is held tightly by a bunch of hypocritical mama's boys who can't keep their dicks in their pants or exclusively within their own wives.

    I consider the actions of those who endorse and encourage such a philandering, heavily patriarchal society far more disgraceful than those that strip their clothes off for a photo session.

    On one level, you're right, they are the same... Either girl is only giving you what you're stupid enough, horny enough or desparate enough to pay for.

    The problem isn't with the girl that struts around throwing out hand jobs or flashing her tits on the Internet. The problem is within a society controlled by men who will publically rebuke such activity yet embrace it privately with arms and wallet opened wide.

    Of course it's a condition that isn't limited to just Indonesia, happens everywhere, only here it's less transparent.

  • At November 21, 2005 6:28 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    You're wrong man! This what we call SYMBIOSIS MUTUALISM. We need chicks like Tiara as well as they need men like me to make a living.

    Binky said: I consider the actions of those who endorse and encourage such a philandering, heavily patriarchal society far more disgraceful than those that strip their clothes off for a photo session.

    Man! you think Tiara's striping her clothes off did not encourage such a philandering? Where on earth are you from, dude? She really did encourage men like me ;)

    Go hang out more Binky! You'll know the real ecstacy. Don't just trap yourself in this virtual world.

  • At November 21, 2005 8:34 AM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Smells a lot more like commensalism and less like mutualism if you ask me.

    As for getting out more, don't you worry about that... I do more than my fair share of whooping it up a few times a week with the Jakarta Jet Set.

  • At November 21, 2005 9:13 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    In first place Trent, for someone at the age of 33 still single, and working as a software developer, you really do not match that jakarta jet set lifestyle you claimed. I've checked your profile. Far to go to be on that level for you, man.

    Now, I know that I should just end these 'conversation'.You're not worth a fraction and simply an incompatible counter. L

    Let me guess, you're just one of those 'Jalan Jaksa' bules?

    Happy wanking to you, while I'm having a real blast here ;)

  • At November 21, 2005 1:59 PM, Anonymous binkyiscrazyman said…

    binky suck my dicky. you like lollypop?

  • At November 21, 2005 7:06 PM, Anonymous pimp_dude said…

    commensalism = one party benefits, while the other is neutral. Tiara benefits from getting marketing exposure to further he value as a "model." the guys wacking off to her pics benefit from getting sexual healing. thus it's a mutualism my dear

  • At November 21, 2005 9:55 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Methinks the Playboy doth presume too much.

    Single by choice, my friend. I could sit here and drop names of people and places all day long, but I don't need to prove anything to you or anyone else. What's next? Are you going to ask me what kind of handphone I have and then judge me on that too?

    Software development is just one particular sideline amongst several professional endeavors. I primarily work as the komisaris of my own import/export company, and my partners are among the biggest names in IT distribution in South East Asia. I'm as close to being a "Jalan Jaksa" bule as you are from being able to look at a pretty girl across the room without jumping on your moped and dashing home to touch yourself.

    Pimp dude, learn a thing or two about the subtle art of derision before you slap your biology textbook on the table. My statement was meant to be a blanket commentary on the patterns in a patriarchal society, i.e. Men grow, get their cake and eat it, while women get the crumbs and remain stagnant. It's not supposed to be my analysis of the social interaction between Tiara and her fans bent on self gratification.

  • At November 22, 2005 2:53 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    you have a very ugly photo, trent. no wonder no girls are attracted to you :(

    how much you're paid by Tiara to perform defensive mode here? or was it your way to get a laid with her?

    binky said: It's not supposed to be my analysis of the social interaction between Tiara and her fans bent on self gratification.

    So you know nothing about the truth between us and Tiara, so please dear boy...get lost!

  • At November 22, 2005 2:59 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    If you're komisaris, then why the hell you have so much times here. Missing so many BoC meetings?

    Don't have to detail poor boy, just put everythings on your blog so that us can read. So far...nothing impressive there, not even a komisaris look alike.

  • At November 22, 2005 3:00 AM, Anonymous PlayboyII said…

    you have a very ugly photo, trent. no wonder no girls are attracted to you :(

    how much you're paid by Tiara to perform defensive mode here? or was it your way to get a laid with her?

    binky said: It's not supposed to be my analysis of the social interaction between Tiara and her fans bent on self gratification.

    So you know nothing about the truth between us and Tiara, so please dear boy...get lost!

  • At November 22, 2005 4:15 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    ...and after all this one day we found out that this is one internet hoax done by a 13 year old who somehow happened to have access to Tiara's pics (I'll have to look for other scenarios for the Tiara hotline phone)...

    guys, guys, please, let's just enjoy this interesting place (for Indonesia, this is quite new -our own Playmate's blog!)

    instead of bashing each other, why don't we all ask Tiara to do an up close and personal interview with us, in the real world, not here in the internet, not by phone, face to face. at least then we'll know if this is really her. I know I'm curious.

    so Tiara, I'll be in Sg next week...

  • At November 22, 2005 7:07 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    You have the first blessing to do the interview, Raya! Please do so and tell us the naked truth behind Tiara.

    Tiara, if you're really as what've been written here, please do show up and face the interview with Raya. Don't make any excuse. We rather hear that you're just an avarage Indo girl with so so IQ than reading your-trying-very-hard image you're building through this blog.

    Raya, you're our ambassador!

  • At November 22, 2005 12:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    this blog is going to hell.

  • At November 22, 2005 6:11 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…


  • At November 23, 2005 1:43 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    astagah !! ada apa ini gerangan ??
    everytime i post a comment here, everytime also somebody try to ruin my blog....

    come bring it on then.... hahaha... give u r best shoot...

    raya horny ni yeeeeeee... huhuhu

  • At November 23, 2005 3:30 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    moi? horny?
    exactly what do you think I was hoping for if (if!)we do meet her (if it turns out to be really her)? please..

    now if this were Natsuko Tohno's (my favorite Japanese goddess of plenty)blog and I'm asking to meet her then hell yeah you can say that Raya is horny :p

  • At November 23, 2005 5:41 AM, Blogger rocky said…

    It is not easy to put your picture out there and let people comment about you.

    Tiara gives each one the freedom to judge her and comment on her.

    Many of the comments are quite rude and direct. But I think Tiara takes them in a stride, with head held high.

    I admire people with courage and definitely Tiara has it. She is not afraid of what people may say about her.

    I wish you well Tiara.

  • At November 23, 2005 6:19 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Adith, I'm sure you agree there are plenty nicer and sexier girls in Jakarta to get horny on. If you ask me, I would prefer Jade & Nyomi Marcela over Tiara (physically). Specially that they don't need to pretend to be someone smart like what Tiara did here.

    As for your Rocky. Let's see how your admiration on Tiara when you see these kind of posts were deleted (will be deleted) by Tiara with that head held high ;)

    Raya, did Tiara agree to meet up for interview? I doubt she would agree to that challenge...TOO afraid to disappoint her fans with her empty brain.

  • At November 23, 2005 8:47 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    No answer yet, fellas.
    If this is really her, even only part of it, I think none of us can call her an airhead or 'empty brain' cause heck, here we are the supposedly smarter people fussing about in her blog... Again, assuming this is really Tiara.

  • At November 23, 2005 9:14 AM, Blogger rocky said…

    It's not that easy to be famous.
    Agreed, there may be other girls in Jakarta you may prefer.

    But it still takes guts to get negative messages and keep reading them and continue giving people a chance to express sometimes quite dirty stuff.

    So whatever you say she has guts.

  • At November 23, 2005 10:24 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Raya, sorry to disagree with you. A smart girl won't easiy exposed her tits and pussy for public eyes. She should have been better in finding a decent job. Gezz, and the called this 'arts'?

    Rocky, you're obviously new here. Go check down under other articles...how many posts have been deleted. Then you can tell me that she has guts!

    So, Tiara where are those new photos? I really need them for my specific needs ;-)

  • At November 23, 2005 4:59 PM, Anonymous raya said…

    i agree that a smart girl won't solely depend on posing nude to make a living, but then again it's also a choice :)

    i'm just giving "her" the benefit of a doubt cause no matter what, this thing got my attention and that's pretty smart :)

  • At November 23, 2005 9:56 PM, Anonymous Linda said…


    Please..please do not listen to all these people who are making stupid and nasty comments. They are not worth your time. Trust me, there are people like me.. hundreds of me's, who love your blog and love what you stand for!!

    Please keep writing. Let these people say what they want. They are mad because they can't have you! Losers!

    Playboy ass***, shut the heck up!! If this blog is so bad.. why do you keep coming back???There has been 20 something posting and not one with Tiara naked pic. THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE. Just go away and find yourself a woman (a real one. not a blow up doll).

    This is now a community. And I love coming here. Wanker like you does nothing for a forum like this.

    Binky, you are a good man.

    And for those of you who are like me.. start putting comments please. If we can't shut people like playboy, let us just drown his nasty voice with ours.

    Tiara, trust me.. we love you enough to keep coming back. Keep writing.

  • At November 23, 2005 10:03 PM, Anonymous Mark said…


    I am one of those people. I like Tiara and I love this blog!

    We are the silent majority. Tiara, keep your head high! We are here for you..


  • At November 23, 2005 10:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hey, does anyone notice the lack of update lately? Tiara, where are you? Why have't you put up new posting?

  • At November 23, 2005 10:47 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Linda, Mark...

    Hi there! In addition to more frequent posts from the host with the most, this blog certainly needs to see more lurkers like you step into the light.

    Thanks for the kind words, Linda.

    Time to go back to work,


  • At November 24, 2005 4:36 AM, Blogger rocky said…

    I agree, Tiara may have deleted some posts, but she has read them first and still stood her ground. Some of you guys must have said terrible things.

    We forget that some of our grandmas went about life with bare breasts and nothing happened.

    Now many young men who think they are so fashionable go about with modern tight pants and shirts, very sexy themselves.

    But they want their WIFE (or future wife) with hijab if possible. So they can conveniently abuse her in private. Like you guys abuse Tiara here in this place.

    Guys are so ignorant that they don't realize how better would life be if we all would respect and honor women.

  • At November 24, 2005 7:22 AM, Anonymous lucia said…

    Raya, your posting is amazing. Unfortunatley, some comments are just too boring, especially comments that are not related with raya's article. I think everybody should learn to respond within the topic. Ignore comments which are not related to it.


  • At November 24, 2005 7:37 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Linda, you missed one of my main intentions to be here. I'm here to SATISFY myself with Tiara nude pics. That's why I keep asking her to put more of new pictures. Got bored with those old pics I got from the net! Since this is her personal blog (wish we can believe that!) of course I rather bring that request here. Btw, want a threesome session with me and Tiara? ;)

    Everyone just made mistake telling this is not that kind of site we'll find her naked pix. But why the hell she provided links to those pics. You'll be very DUMB not to understand that hidden agenda. Simple example, she posted that article about Mr. R, but had her LIBIDO LIFT photo with that article. I hate to say she's pretty 'smart' on that, at least in getting the attention of a nasty man like me. Still, it’s rather 'tricky' than being 'smart', Raya ;) Man, I forgot to tell you that I indeed like your article! Write more, but not here. I really did enjoy reading your blog. Here, I’m just having fun with Tiara.

    Rocky boy, I would never want my wife to wear that table cloth on her head. Let me guess, you're living in a remote Kampong in Java?

    Speaking of being abusive. Tiara for sure fully aware of such consequences before deciding to pose nude in public. So Rocky boy, until you can AGREE with your wife/gf showing her tits, butt and pussy to other men, then you’ll have NO reason to blame men like me. Unless you do want some part of bucks she made out of that shows ;)

    Tiara dear, where r u hiding? no more pics (new links)? Thinking how to appear ‘smart’ on your next article? Ugh…one day you’ll show up again, but no new pics for me, only to execute that Power to Delete BOTTOM…Opss, did I say bottom not BUTTON? ;)

  • At November 24, 2005 9:43 AM, Anonymous Linda said…

    Agreed Lucia. Raya great posting!

    (One more time Lucia.. sorry.. this guy is really bothering me). Hey mr. Playboy wannabe: You can jump up and down crying like a baby.. she is still not gonna give it to you. Go home to your momma! Ok.. from now on.. focus on the topic of posting.

    Ignoring you Playboy. Hell.. I am voting that Tiara should just delete his comments!


  • At November 24, 2005 10:17 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Whoa..linda dear, I like playing rough too. Seems like you're the perfect girl for that ;)

    Fyi, I only need Tiara for wanking, and I call a VVIP number for special delivery and real adventures. They can get me numbers of celebrities and top models on full service for $$

    If you don't want me to make fun of you...just get lost, babe! I really like to get your nerve.

  • At November 24, 2005 10:25 AM, Blogger rocky said…

    I don't agree that Tiara should delete playboy's comments. Then the freedom of expression would not be there. By the way, I don't live in a kampong but not in a big city either. And you don't need to go to a kampong to see men who are afraid of strong and independent women.

    Some people get wild about things they see, but if you go to market and see beautiful fruit, you don't jump on it.

    If you advertise fruit you put the nicest ones in display, no? You don't put the rotten ones.

    The same about advertising, if they advertise something, they want to put a beautiful woman.

    If a guy gets crazy when he sees the nice girl, the fault is not hers.

    I don't know what moved Tiara to let those more revealing photos be taken, but she gambled heavily there. She must have known what she was doing, which includes that some guys will get wild and say a lot of dirty things.
    But there it is, she did it.
    Would you dare to do the same?

    It is a question of courage.

  • At November 24, 2005 10:38 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Just another note to Rocky before leaving.

    Glad that you understand very well that freedom of expression.

    For the challenge?...naaa. I rather being a BUYER than a Seller. It's a matter of skill ;) Ask your same the same question, man! But before you answer that, I do want to hear you answer for my previous question to you.

    Anyway, that's your HW for tonight. Quite exhausted with party already. So, save it…nitey night!

  • At November 24, 2005 12:02 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Playboy, you friggin' fool.

    When you see the phrase, "Comment deleted by author" that means that the original writer of the comment deleted their own post. When you see "team member (or administrator) deleted this post" That means Tiara or her minions removed the comments.

    There has been ONE administrative/team member deletion. When someone went into details about hiring high class escorts here in Jakarta.

    There have been 4 other deleted posts on this site. 1 of them was from Tiara's ex-boyfriend, the other 3 were deleted by myself as I was drunk and screwing around trying to get the last thread up to 100 posts when someone screwed up my plans and posted right in the middle of my mischief. So I simply deleted all my comments.

    That's it, that explains EVERY SINGLE deleted comment on this blog, so sit down, shut up, buckle up and lets move forward.


  • At November 24, 2005 2:28 PM, Blogger Carslemane Foraix said…

    That's a very interesting post. I'd write more, but I have to go to the dunny.

  • At November 25, 2005 5:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Almost one month without a new posting. Tiara are you there somewhere?? We miss you girl!

    Hey you guys.. do you think those stupid people drove her away? Damn I feel like a husband left by his wife

  • At November 25, 2005 7:06 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    PINKY WINKY BINKY, you don't have to teach me! When Tiara wrote this Post Scriptum : Mr. name changing... "removed by author" means the person who wrote the comment deleted it. Not I. :)

    She lied! majority of those harsh comments came from my own "TEAM MEMBERS". Fyi, we did not delete all the comments she claimed were deleted by author ;)

    Ugh...I don’t care now! Where the hell this petite slut? Has a cat bitten her tongue? Or has my team silent her?

  • At November 25, 2005 7:19 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    I tell you Tiara, I’m bored enough with all collection I got from here and others:

    Can you make a close up photo of your pussy....slurpp..slurp..

  • At November 25, 2005 7:51 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    aduh... ngerusaknya g canggih deh aw... :P

    raya mo bilang horny aja bebelit2 wu.. :P....

    aduh...... kalo baca commentnya... ck ck ck ... jadi inget masa muda dulu deh....

    jangan delete2 comment dunk, yang bikin seru kan malah perbedaannya... aduh blog ini kalo mo nulis inggris juga rasanya kok g mutu, cuman inggris pisuhan... kekekekke

    maaf atas keterbatasan saya.. :D

  • At November 25, 2005 8:07 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    aduh playboy ternyata ngomentari ane ya....

    well, writing is a work that actually not easy, for me, every writter must be influence by their own life, and i believe tiara live more colourfull nevertheless the dark side... such as meeting people like u and your comment of course, dealing with it make someone wise.... and be happy with it, u part of being someone wise, nice right ? :D

    became smart and make horny that`s what make the prices so different right ? that`s why, there were high class and street class right ?
    and tiara try to make her own class right ? hahaha :P

    the problem is... can you afford it ? :P

  • At November 25, 2005 8:15 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    Adith said:
    "raya mo bilang horny aja bebelit2 wu.. :P.... "

    Rupanya anda nggak nangkep maksud jawaban saya ya. Ya su lah, gapapa :)

  • At November 25, 2005 8:47 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    ADITH go find some blog that you can only write in your Kampong language. How's that? Then you can comment about the language others were using. You cannot even speak your monther tongue, perfectly!

    Better finish your school before joing this comunity. Even for simple words Raya was trying to explain you, you couldn't get it? Gosh...

    Go back to your school buddies, sissy boy! ;)

  • At November 25, 2005 9:38 AM, Blogger rocky said…

    Well, playboy
    Here I am answering your question.
    When you want to marry a person, you should respect the decisions she takes. So if she is a model and likes her job you should be aware that there will be men like you around, so if you cannot agree you don’t marry her.

    I am not sure Tiara is just “showing herself to other men” like you put it, she is a model, so this is her job.
    If you think that she is doing it just for men like you, then also an actress or a dancer would be someone falling into this category. And the world would be a sadder place without women who dare to go into the open like this.

    A woman who goes high profile doesn’t do it for dirty things men may think.
    A dirty mind is not an external problem, it is internal. The person who has a dirty mind has it regardless of women showing their body. You cannot blame them for creating a state in your mind that your own mind produces.

    Anyway I don’t understand you well, you seem to be full of contradictions: You enjoy the sight of women but you condemn them at the same time…

  • At November 25, 2005 10:01 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Simple response to you Rocky. If a woman isn't selling anything of her to me, than I won't buy her as a slut.

    Since I paid to get Tiara's nude photos, then I wish to treat her as low as she has went to for those photos. In other words, if you've paid to get a woman, you just want to do her as you like, right?

    I'm not that regular Tiara's fans, as I'm different. One day would be enjoying myself before her naked photos, the other day I would fantasize treating her as my sex slave.

    Let's just agree to disagree, specially on that long debated "model" definition!

    PS. Don't you guys realize that I somehow made this forum flooded with people? Thanks to my “Team Members”

  • At November 25, 2005 7:43 PM, Anonymous Nylana said…

    Playboy, your personal gripes and petty dislikes are not interesting to anyone but yourself. Keep it to yourself. If you do not like an argument advanced by a poster, critique the argument. Advance your own side of the issue. But do not insult or attack the poster. And please do not allow a difference of opinion to become a weblog disrupting flame war or long-lasting thread killing feud. I am not Tiara fan but as a woman I feel offended with your comments and this degradation needs to stop! Time for your meds!

  • At November 25, 2005 7:51 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…

    Yeah, Playboy, I noticed. You're sort of like a curiously annoying hybrid of 'Long Duk Dong' and 'Farmer Ted' from Sixteen Candles.

  • At November 26, 2005 2:51 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    moi? horny?
    exactly what do you think I was hoping for if (if!)we do meet her (if it turns out to be really her)? please..

    now if this were Natsuko Tohno's (my favorite Japanese goddess of plenty)blog and I'm asking to meet her then hell yeah you can say that Raya is horny :p

    ... yes mister i understand what u mean... i just want to make my point that just say a simple "yes"
    dhak usah bebelit kayak pejabat aja gitu loh......... haeuheaiuheaiuhea

    aduh iya maaf playboy sekali lagi, kalo gw kampungan, lagian wtf gitu loh......... nyatanya pada nyambung gitu kok... hahaha.........
    lagian kalo lu boleh inggris kelas psk gitu, jelas beda dong ama gw yang biasa ngomong bahasa kromo inggil ^jogja style^... huhuhu :P

    TOEFL = Test Our English Fucking Language, bangga amat luh bisa inggris..... :P

    btw, if someone do not understand u can paste it to toogletext.com

    c ya...
    try better next time with my blog.. can`t wait to see it :P

  • At November 26, 2005 7:32 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Yike...I'm famous here! Thanks nylana. Indeed I wanted to create a war ;)

    What did you say pinky winky binky?...aah..aah. Me yawning

    Adith, even your Javanese was a 'priya' level of languange.

    You still didn't get what Raya was saying did you? Simple...you're a real kampong boy. Now, get lost!

  • At November 26, 2005 7:40 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…


    She doesn't have to create an intelligence woman image, coz we won't buy it. Learn from other Indonesians like.


  • At November 26, 2005 7:41 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    I meant...learn from other success Indonesians like NYOMI & JADE MARCELA!

  • At November 26, 2005 10:00 AM, Anonymous raya said…

    Dear Adith,

    This is what I said:
    "now if this were Natsuko Tohno's (my favorite Japanese goddess of plenty)blog and I'm asking to meet her then hell yeah you can say that Raya is horny :p"

    Pak Adith, terjemahan dari ucapan saya diatas adalah:
    "kalau ini adalah blognya Natsuko Tohno (sang dewi montok favorit saya dari Jepang)dan saya sedang memnita untuk bertemu dengannya (Natsuko Tohno -bukan Tiara), maka barulah anda bisa bilang bahwa ya, si Raya memang lagi horny"

    Secara tidak langsung kalimat tersebut mengatakan bahwa:
    "maaf, jika anda mengatakan bahwa Raya sedang horny (entah konteksnya dihubungkan dengan keberadaan saya di blog ini atau dengan tantangan saya untuk menginterview Tiara secara langsung), anda salah".

    So apparently, no, "mister", you misunderstood what I meant.

    Mohon maaf, mungkin memang saya terlalu berbelit-belit hingga anda salah menerjemahkan karena terfokus pada kalimat terakhir saya yang anda bold-kan :)

    But yes, perhaps you're right that I should've kept it simple and just say "No".

    Just in case, mungkin ada lagi yang ditanyakan, misalnya bagaimana saya menerjemahkan istilah "Goddess of Plenty". Itu memang saya terjemahkan secara bebas, karena itu saya mengutip dari dialog Rowan Atkinson di Black Adder Goes Forth (best sitcom ever)dimana beliau dengan kocak menggambarkan seorang cewek Bali yang sexy sebagai "The Balinese Goddess of Plenty".

    Gitu loh mas Adith. :)

    Now I really wish Natsuko Tohno had a blog like this back then... Now she's absolutely my type...

  • At November 26, 2005 7:06 PM, Anonymous loveholes said…

    Raya, which is hotter, your babe Natsuko Tohno or my babe Eiko Koike click here :
    Japanese babes are so exotic, bold and hot, not like Tiara's dark skin with huge BLACK NIPPLES and small TITS

  • At November 26, 2005 7:27 PM, Anonymous loveholes said…

    ATTENTION !! .HI GUYS..since we are having FUN in this site harassing Tiara, -Playboy especially ( I am making an alliance with U) ,let's call her LESTARI, for now , since taht's is only her real name , Tiara Amara is her slutty name , OK GUYS..since Tiara is NOT SO HOT (but trying to be) , and SHE is not updating her SLUTTY pic (she may be going to MECCA to REPENT herself) and she may be sick of us bashing and trashing this BLOG, let's trash it once and for all, so lets make our own topic here. let's start with : WHICH ONE IS HOTTER, TIARA OR THIS GIRL ? THEN GIVE A LINK TO THAT GIRL (IT MUST BE A NUDE PHOTO), LET ME START : WHICH ONE IS HOTTER, TIARA OR THIS GIRL :http://www.asian4you.com/webmaster/galleries/petchara-001ddfc/fullsize.jpg , NOT A CHANCE LESTARI

  • At November 26, 2005 7:34 PM, Anonymous loveholes_rocks! said…

  • At November 26, 2005 7:37 PM, Anonymous raya said…

    Daaang Loveholes...
    Holy mother of everything that's good and pure... Now that Eiko is one hot babe. Wow.

    But you know, Eiko's got this gorgeous babe look while Natsuko has this girl-next-door charm... I still prefer my Summer Child.

    But hey, let's not mock anyone shall we, it's a matter of preference, right? Tiara is perfect for Playboy's market segment, and my fave Natsuko may not be. Nothing's wrong with that, just preference.

    Does Eiko has her own blog?
    Heck, anyone here ever found a Japanese AV idol's blog? If there's one then let's meet up there, and then there Adith can really say that Raya is horny, which I will give a simple answer of "yes".


    Tiara where are you?
    C'mon, I'll be in Sg Tuesday to Sunday. It'll be a great gimmick to prove this is really Tiara. Or heck even if this is not I'd still like to meet her, or him, or that thick- glass-wearing-pimple-faced-13-year-old.
    Whoever can prove that she or he made this funky place.

  • At November 26, 2005 7:50 PM, Anonymous loveholes said…


  • At November 26, 2005 8:01 PM, Anonymous loveholes_rocks! said…

    raya, great.. you appreciate a real beauty and "size Ds", Playboy dutch and penthouse published lestari 'cuz : her dark skin is unique to them, and she is asian BUT with dark skin, but to us, Indo MEN , her looks can be found everywhere in night clubs in Jakarta ! (some are even hotter) take a good look again Lestari without make up and PHOTOSHOP (her tities were PHOTOSHOPPED by adam yurman). click here :http://pub33.bravenet.com/photocenter/viewimg.php?usernum=2821462647&show=013454BE65.jpg

  • At November 26, 2005 8:04 PM, Anonymous EIKO KOIKE IS FUCKIN HOT said…


  • At November 26, 2005 8:07 PM, Anonymous THIS_BLACK_GIRL said…


  • At November 26, 2005 8:08 PM, Anonymous this black girl said…

    which one is hotter

  • At November 26, 2005 8:09 PM, Anonymous tiara_black_girl said…


  • At November 26, 2005 8:16 PM, Anonymous THIS_ONE_IS_HOTTER ! said…

    THIS ONE IS HOTTER ! http://www.asian4you.com/webmaster/galleries/petchara-002dcvfd/fc010.jpg

  • At November 26, 2005 8:18 PM, Anonymous TIARA AND her FAT BOYFRIEND said…

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  • At November 27, 2005 6:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    guys, do u think this is too much?..I think it would be enough to post something that don't have correlation with the posting..I don't choose both 'side' here (1st I think it's interesting) if I can say so, but I already think that this is too much now.

  • At November 27, 2005 8:25 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    I'M WITH YOU LOVEHOLES! Thanks for joining. Me and my TEAM MEMBERS are preparing the strategy I would call "Screw_Tiara"

  • At November 27, 2005 11:46 AM, Anonymous LINDI CISTIA PRABHA said…

    LINDI CISTIA PRABHA :2005 INDO MISS WORLD. beautiful enough to be in beauty contest now THAT'S A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT ! no need to pose NUDE like TIARA :black slutty model with black nipples, you suck ! - loveholes PS : Playboy -game on - I got members too !http://www.missworld.tv/bio/bio.sps?iBiographyID=51749

  • At November 27, 2005 1:46 PM, Blogger priaberbajuhitam said…

    Playboy said...
    I'M WITH YOU LOVEHOLES! Thanks for joining. Me and my TEAM MEMBERS are preparing the strategy I would call "Screw_Tiara"

    sebenarnya Playboy ini.... majalah ato orang seh?
    kl d bilang majalah, yo mosok majalah iso ngetik...
    trus lek wong, yo mosok cangkeme koq ga d sekolahno yo..

    he u playboy... or watever ?
    me n my TEAM MEMBER r also preparing the strategy i would call "SEMOGA_LEKAS_SEMBUH"
    hehehe... don't repot2 bales ya coz u paling juga nulis that i was kampong or else bla..bla..bla.. so u better saved u finger energy to do something else like ngupil ato galer ok?
    PS: if u reply 2 my post, it mean that u r a not earth people... piss!

  • At November 27, 2005 8:41 PM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    PRIABERBAJU HITAM, what were you saying? EARTH PEOPLE? Sorry, I didn't get it, man. Were you mumbling?

    Of course I'd love to reply your post, coz my intention here was simply to make fun of Tiara, plus her drugged fans. I myself a fan of her, but to the limit of enjoying her nude pics. I'd say no to any articles she wrote pretended to speak of her mind and thoughts.

    PLUS, of course I will make fun of someone like you until I got your nerve;)

    Lindi, welcome to the jungle. We sure will have lots of fun here!

    Volks, look at this Indonesian miss world contestant. She's really something. Tiara should learn from her, Atika, Anggela (this one made to be an MP) or the best is Anggun! They need not to be nude to achieve their dreams.

    As for Tiara, please just post more naked photos, and stop pretend like a smart one. No matter how hard you've tried, we are men here are only for more exposure of your dark tits and pussy ;)

    Tiara can't even agree to an interview with Raya. Afraid to reveal her naked truth?

  • At November 27, 2005 11:26 PM, Anonymous adith said…

    playboy ngotot amat sih...
    kalo gw ngomong kromo ama lu apa ngak gw merendahkan diri gw sendiri tuh... hihihi :P

    iya deh pak raya, sori om karena kebodohan saya... maklum belum akil baliqh... heuahaeuhaeuhae

    iya disini bebelit semua kalo ngetik......

    sorry, for everyone.. enjoy the visit... exhaust in solve it, when we not use the same brain to think but a dick to think...

    c ya..

  • At November 28, 2005 1:02 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Whoaaa...ADITH belum Akil Baliq? Were you also saying that you're a virgin?! No wonder sissy boy, you have a lot to learn before joining this forum ;)

    Watch out for your MOMMY behind your back. She might hate to see what you're doing, boy! Better go back to study.

  • At November 28, 2005 3:35 AM, Blogger priaberbajuhitam said…

    playboy itu org ato majalah sih... bingung gw?
    hei u play boy or watever u r...
    tell me wat is the meaning of " I will make fun of someone like you until I got your nerve;)", because i don't know wat u talking about?
    ok thebn if u insist to watch tiara or "other tiara" pose their nude pics, i have a web that [maybe can satisfied u"r desire of indonesian girl] go to : www.kaskus.com
    but, u have to register first ok!!!

    "pria memang tak pernah puas", begitu juga aku... hihihi :-P

  • At November 28, 2005 4:39 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    btw, raya... be honest...
    i confess my self, the first time i found this blog is because the nude pose that tiara did, although i kind disappointed because there wasn`t any...

    but, she can write ? well done, but there were playboy kind of comment, tho` i`m still not yet akil baligh.. make me wonder why mature person like himself olny think trough his dick.... is it like when your dick became bigger that mean your brain became smaller ? how come ???....

    fear me to became older enough... :D

  • At November 28, 2005 4:08 PM, Anonymous Lena Li is so fuckin hot said…


  • At November 29, 2005 3:23 AM, Anonymous playboy said…

    You can ignore what I said before, Priaberbajuhitam. I just like you now with the fact that you're being honest with yourself. "Pria memang tidak pernah puas"...see, we have things in common. Kita punya perpikiran yang sama ;) Not like Adith, he really need a lot to learn. How many times I should tell you Adith? I'm here not to think for God shake, I'm here for wanking!

    Don't be such a hypocrite, Adith! Learn from Priaberbajuhitam. You've admitted searching for Tiara's nude pics in first place, but were disappointed at the end. Try on www.pacificbeauty.com and click on Amara, but don't thank me later :)

    Terima kasih for the link. Priaberbajuhitam. Surely will register there ;)

  • At November 29, 2005 3:42 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    wah, saya mah udah puas...
    kalo g puas gw pikir semua manusia gitu... g cowok g cewek...

    makanya butuh agama kan katanya yg beragama supaya selalu mensyukuri..

    maka dari itu kalo orang seperti saya terkadang bingung fungsinya agama buat saya :P

    btw, ada artis indonesia lagi yang nude di playboy lagi... name plss..
    siapa tau dia juga punya blogger loh... gw denger di ente-tai-ment ?

    is it just me, or u just like to have a lot of enemy ?

  • At November 29, 2005 4:39 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    But don't you think some wars, disagreements, or disputes were resulted from religious differences, Adith?

    On another note...one of the reason I don't like Tiara's writing articles because they're simply BS. I think many posters have argued about the double standard, about muslim woman posing nude..bla..bla, and still Tiara trying very hard to to convince us here with her muslim woman image while at the same time promoting nudity. She would sound better without mentioning any religious attribute.

    I wasn't against what she's doing (goshh..I love nudist model), I just hate HYPOCRISY.

    Enemy? Yes, I make enemy with those hypocrites, men and women ;)

    Adith, have you tried googling for Nyomi Marcela or Jade Marcela? Like I said the other day, type their names on google images search. They're famous indo porn stars, but ain't hypocrite enough to create a blog ;)Enjoy surfing...

  • At November 29, 2005 8:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Thanks Playboy! I've googled and find this site. Now guys, click on whatever links there. Tiara absolutely out!


  • At November 30, 2005 12:11 AM, Anonymous hipo_tiara said…

    Tiara is muslim chick and very horny with big mouth. less talk with upper mouth, and more open mouth down south.

  • At November 30, 2005 2:38 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    iya mas playboy, makanya g usah beragama aja kayak saya, jadi g sampe deh bunuh2an karena itu...

    btw HYPOCRISY, kalo di terjemahin indonesianya apaan tu kk ?

    elu orang indonesia pakek bahasa inggris tu termasuk HYPOCRISY g siy ??

    bukan yang itu kk...... di cek dan ricek ada kok, yang pacarnya anak pejabat itu loh... ato anaknya bambang ya ??? lebih manisan dikit...

  • At November 30, 2005 9:59 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    ADITH, the languange issue is nothing to do with hypocrite. I might tell you the same with your Javanese originality. Heck, since you don't know the real meaning of it, then I couldn't explain to you more.

    Fyi, I'm not 100% Indonesian, but still like to be called Indonesian. I'm a European by blood, too. Will keep the details for myself ;)

    Sorry, don't know about that Bambang. Btw, I think "Bambang" is one of the most common names in Indonesia? :P

  • At November 30, 2005 10:06 PM, Anonymous Neutral Observer said…

    Could it be that I spotted you yesterday (30 November, around 8.45 pm) in front of Pasir Putih, Bangka, Jakarta at the back of an Ojek? Probably not, but just wanted to check..
    Regards & keep up the good work!

  • At December 01, 2005 11:18 AM, Anonymous Tiara Lestari said…

    This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

  • At December 01, 2005 10:09 PM, Blogger Duan Damais said…


    It's me again. Remember?

    Now that I'm here.. also remember that... you have the option of "selective replying".

    Btw,.. I like your choice of words. Candor. I remember reading "Winning". Jack loves that word.

    Btw,.. what's your email, man?
    I need some help.. hahahaha.


  • At December 01, 2005 10:11 PM, Blogger Duan Damais said…


    are you Alvinus Mardoko, the loser kid who has a mom that shit US Dollars and bought a Lexus with your parents' money after your Eclipse got totalled?
    You sound a lot like him. hmmm

  • At December 02, 2005 6:19 AM, Anonymous adith said…

    HYPOCRISY <--- di tanyain contohnya g ngerti... hihihi...
    sometime you just to stupid to realize it.... hahahaha....

    nevertheless, oh... whatever...

  • At December 03, 2005 1:06 AM, Anonymous Playboy said…

    Whoa ADITH, that was another mistake you've made in understanding someone's saying. First you miss-interpreted what Raya were trying to say, now that you miss-interpreted mine. ADITH just do your HW, lil bro ;)

    Well Dumais, if human trafficking is fine for you, then maybe I can also buy you :P

  • At December 04, 2005 1:30 PM, Anonymous tiaraerasesherposts said…


  • At December 04, 2005 1:36 PM, Blogger Binky Sphinx said…


    Hi there. What can I help you with?


  • At December 04, 2005 7:41 PM, Anonymous this blog is going to die said…

    no one like you tiara. you think you smart. but no one respect you. you must show more boobie make people happy

  • At December 04, 2005 7:58 PM, Blogger Duan Damais said…

    Yo Trent,

    I left a comment on your blog since I don't have any other way of talking privately to ya. And I don't think it is appropriate to post about that matter right here.
    But... shit... look at how many fired up people are out there posting trashes. They gotta have a lot of time. I wish I'm one of them.

  • At January 18, 2006 12:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    My dear Tiara,

    Sebagai wanita saya -entah kenapa- mengerti dengan apa yang dikatakan playboy, etc.

    Kamu inget peri bahasa Indonesia ? "Apa yang kamu tanam itulah yang kamu Petik". Menjadi photo model nudis bukanlah suatu pilihan hidup yang pintar, sayang.

  • At September 19, 2006 1:35 PM, Anonymous lucky said…

    Aku pengen mimik susu mu

  • At November 15, 2009 4:53 PM, Blogger Duan Damais said…

    Im trying to delete a comment i made 4 years ago to this post that mentions a certain someone. The posting seems to be publishable and searchable through Google. I would like to express a wholesome intention to have that particular post amended and discarded. Since the option to delete my own posting is for some reason now disabled, I would need the blog administrator's help to get this done. Tiara, or her blog admin, please contact me. Thank you.

  • At January 07, 2010 2:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Gua setuju ama salah satu komentar dr Anonymous, salah satu tragedi yang ada adalah banyak putra & putri dr negeri kita yang tinggal atw sekolah di luar negri berubah menadi sosok yang hampir tidak mengenal budaya tradisi yang masih hidup dan berlaku di negri kita.

    Yang cukup membuat saya trenyuh adalah anda termasuk orang yang seharusnya menjaga tradisi-2 itu, ma'af bukankah anda masih kerabat kraton surakarta / solo ? anda masih keturunan "darah biru" anda masih bergelar raden ayu/ajeng ?

    Trus kalo yg seharusnya menjaga malah mengumbar -apa kata dunia ?-

    (bukan ngak bisa inggris, ini cuma sekedar mengingatkan kamu bukan yang lain.)
    Ma'af kalo ngak berkenan.

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